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A terrorist trial in New York City, is it really such a good idea?

Friday, March 12th, 2010
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Malukchuk asked:


“I’ll talk to you guys after I get to New York and see my lawyer.”

That, according to former Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet, is what September 11 planner Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) said when he was captured in March 2003.

The lawyers are members of the ACLU’s John Adams Project, which is run in conjunction with the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers (NACDL). The John Adams Project represents Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the four other 9/11 conspirators the Obama administration has decided to move to U.S. soil for trial. Thus, it is not surprising that the ACLU has praised the controversial move, saying it was “a major victory for due process and the rule of law.”

It is nothing of the sort, but the ACLU consistently portrays itself in this light–as if it is only concerned with protecting the “rule of law.” The reality is quite different. The ACLU has worked diligently to undermine America’s stance in what was formerly known as the “war on terror,” and has even been willing to disseminate propaganda on behalf of our jihadist enemies.

Here is an example of what could result; MIAMI — A judge handed two brothers prison terms of six and seven years on Wednesday for swearing allegiance to Al-Qaeda and plotting to blow up the Sears Tower, once the tallest building in the world.

US District Judge Joan Lenard found Burson and Rotschild Augustin, who wept as their sentences were read, played a minor role in the 2006 conspiracy and gave them a far lighter sentence than the 30 years prosecutors had sought.

In handing down the sentence against 24-year-old Burson, Lenard said: “Islamic terrorism is one of the most tremendous problems that this country now confronts… this defendant took an oath to Al-Qaeda.”

 

Why is the military better at fighting terrorists than law enforcement?

Thursday, March 11th, 2010
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caldude1010101 asked:


The 1993 World Trade Center bombers were captured by the FBI

Timothy McVeigh was captured by a local sheriffs deputy

Richard Reid (shoe bomber) was detained by passengers and later arrested by the FBI.

The conspirators of the 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot to make liquid explosives on a jetliner were caught by Scotland Yard.

The recent NY synagogue bombers were captured by the FBI before the attack.

The proposed Sears Towers bombers were captured by the FBI

NYC Police apprehended 4 suspects intending to bomb the jet fuel facility at Kennedy International Airport.

Even Khalid Sheik Mohammed was captured by the Pakistani ISI (intelligence service) and handed to US authorities.

So why is the military the tool being used to fight terrorism, when law enforcement seems to do a better job?
Still campaigning: Because the military is incredibly expensive and a very blunt tool.

Using the military to fight terrorists is like trying to swat a fly with a sledgehammer. You may get the fly eventually, but there is a huge mess to clean up as a result.

 

A judge gives the man who plotted to bomb the Sears tower six years in prison. What would he give KSM?

Thursday, December 31st, 2009
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TAT asked:


Could this be one of the problems with trying Kaleik Sheik Mohammed in our civilian courts? Judges who give slaps on the rest?
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hcLLxAI0HtlC_rLSntOZCnLXCyHw?index=0
Cannot believe Healthy that anyone would make excuses for this guy. So, he is a disenfranchised individual who never bothered to take responsibility for his life. That justifies plotting terror and deserves a slap on the wrist. He would have gotten a stiffer sentence if he had been cruel to animals!

 

When Transfering AIQaeda To Illinois Will They Drool When They See Sears Tower From The Airplane?

Tuesday, December 22nd, 2009
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Unhappy New Year ): asked:


Is it still called the Sears Tower?

 

Sears Tower in Chicago is changing names?

Friday, December 4th, 2009
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Siddhartha asked:


…..its now called

‘?????’

 

patriot act who’s the bad guy?

Wednesday, September 23rd, 2009
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kill_muslim_kids asked:


undercover surveillance was responsible for preventing attacks on the Sears tower and the Brooklyn bridge, both of which would have caused heavy damage. this surveillance was back us Conservatives, so now we’re the bad guy right? I guess we should have let terrorists destroy those two instead of minimally violating the rights of suspected criminals. which course would have been better.

 

Has anybody heard about whether Obama has appointed Jamie Gorelick to a new post yet?

Friday, September 4th, 2009
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Proud Mary asked:


in his administration?
You remember Gorelick don’t you, the woman who caused 911 while serving in the Clinton administration
with her order that there was to be no communication between U S intelligence and U S law enforcement?
Maybe this time around good ol Jamie could help the terrorists bring down the Sears Tower in Obama’s hometown of Chicago?

 

Wheres the next terror attack going to be?

Thursday, September 3rd, 2009
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Charles Dobson Focus on the Fam asked:


I for one believe the Sears Tower. weve been conditioned over the last few weeks for it. We have seen that as a possible target. Or over the Atlantic. Either way it will be one of them two.

Im sure it will happen in November too. Well before the end of it anyways.
Republicans know they are going toose control of the congress and there goes bushs war mongering power. So thats of course when it will happen.
what will you republicans say when it happens like that?

 

is this what happens when muslims go to american jails and meet non muslims?

Friday, January 30th, 2009
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Inorant asked:


its a well knowen fact that groups recruit new members in prison such as most white supremist groups the mexican mafia ,crips and bloods,do we now want to have muslim terriost recruiting in our prisons?or is some place like gitmo better?

NEWBURGH, N.Y. – The four men accused of plotting to bomb New York City synagogues and shoot down military airplanes with missiles are down-and-out ex-convicts living on the margins in a faded industrial city.

One is a petty criminal who spent a day in 2002 snatching purses and shooting at people with a BB gun from an SUV. His lawyer calls him “intellectually challenged.”

Three have histories of drug convictions, one of them for selling narcotics in a school zone. The man prosecutors portrayed as the instigator of the scheme said he smoked pot the day he planned to blow up the temples.

But if they sometimes seemed amateurish, the men were dangerous people fueled by their hatred for Jews and America, prosecutors said. The plotters managed to get their hands on what they thought were lethal explosives and a surface-to-air missile system, only to find out that they were inert devices supplied by the FBI in a sting operation.

“It’s hard to envision a more chilling plot,” assistant U.S. attorney Eric Snyder said. “These are extremely violent men.”

The arrests follow a long line of homegrown, headline-making terror plots since Sept. 11 that never came close to reality because the FBI inserted itself in early stages. Authorities have broken up plots with targets including the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Herald Square subway station in Manhattan, underground gas pipes at John F. Kennedy International Airport, the Fort Dix military base in New Jersey and tunnels underneath the Hudson River.

James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams and Laguerre Payen were calm as they appeared in court Thursday, their hands shackled, to answer charges of conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction within the U.S. and conspiracy to acquire and use anti-aircraft missiles. They did not enter pleas and were held without bail; they face life in prison if convicted.

Besides destroying the two synagogues in the heavily Jewish Riverdale section of the Bronx, they intended to shoot down planes at the Air National Guard base in Newburgh, about 50 miles north of New York City, prosecutors said.

Relatives said the defendants were struggling men who worked at places such as Wal-Mart, a landscaping company and a warehouse when they weren’t behind bars. Payen’s lawyer said he was on medication for schizophrenia and has “a very low borderline” IQ.

“You don’t raise your children to be terrorists,” said Aahkiyaah Cummings, his aunt. “I don’t know that guy that was arrested.”

Just four years ago, Williams, now 28, told a parole board that prison was a wake-up call after his conviction on drug and weapons charges — drugs he said he sold because he was making only $150 a week in his job.

Onta Williams, 32, and Cromitie have also served prison sentences for drug convictions — Cromitie said in court he had used marijuana as recently as Wednesday. He said he was 55, though law enforcement records give his age as 44.

Payen, 27, did time for attempted assault — in 2002, he and others fired a BB gun out an SUV window, hitting two people in the head. He snatched purses from two women later the same day, said state Division of Parole spokeswoman Heather Groll.

Payen appears to be a Haitian citizen, while the other three are Americans. The Williamses are not related.

New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said he believed the defendants knew each other from their time behind bars. Relatives said Payen, David Williams and Onta (AWN’-tay) Williams were introduced to Islam in prison, where conversion to the faith is common.
Cromitie in June
“The Onta I know wouldn’t do something like this, but the new Onta, yeah,” said Richard Williams, an uncle. “He wasn’t raised this way. All this happened when he became a Muslim in prison.”

Cromitie was burning with anger about the U.S. war in Afghanistan, where his parents had lived before he was born, according to the criminal complaint. He told the informant he was interested in jihad and “doing something to America” and was crestfallen that “the best target (the World Trade Center) was hit already,” the complaint said.

In the same conversation, Cromitie said: “I **** those mother——-, those f—— Jewish b—— …. I would like to get (destroy) a synagogue,” according to the complaint.

In one conversation, Cromitie said he longed to shoot Jews in the head as they walked on the street near a synagogue,

 

Anyone think the recent foiled terrorists plots are strangely timed?

Thursday, January 29th, 2009
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thrillhaus asked:


The seven Miami terrorists who were arrested recently were apparently quite disorganized and not a real threat to attack the Sears Tower. Then, today it was announced that the FBI and Homeland Security had busted a plot in the planning stages to blow up the Holland Tunnel- a plot that had no chance of success, since it would actually have to defy the laws of physics to have worked. Anyone else find it interesting that after months/years of no signifcant announcements by the federal government of breaking up any terrorist plots against the U.S., all of a sudden they’re quite vocal about these apparently highly unlikely plots they broke up in an election year? Not that the Bush administration has tried to keep us in fear or anything…
Well so far the conservative block has answered with about as much intelligence as I expected.

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